Over the last year I developed an avid interest in Japanese,
having watched such fascinating anime as Maison Ikkoku (めぞん一刻) and Code
Geass (コードギアス). So, around mid-2008, I started learning
the language, first by myself, and then at the amazing East Asian languages
department at Stanford University .
Background
An alternate, prominent hypothesis is that Japanese is related to the Altaic language family (Turkic, Mongolic etc) based on vocabulary correspondences, and the fact the both Japanese and Altaic languages are agglutinative [1a]. A much less widely accepted, and even more controversial hypothesis is the relationship between Japanese and Dravidian, another agglutinative language [1b].
Akira Fujiwara called Japanese and Tamil "as alike as two peas in a pod" [2,3]. Unfortunately, such over-enthusiasm to embrace the Dravidian hypothesis has led to (eminently remediable) oversights and hasty research conclusions, drawing withering criticism. Notably, the late Susumu Ohno's extensive list of vocabulary correspondences between Japanese and Tamil [4] have been dubbed "careless and capricious" by Roy A Miller, a principal proponent of the Altaic hypothesis [3]. Rebuttals have been made to these criticisms as well [5].
Next section: What do I bring to this debate?
The first thing that struck me about Japanese was its similarity
with my native language, Tamil, a South Indian (Dravidian) language. I could
translate almost word for word, particle for particle, and sometimes even idom
for idiom between the two languages! Having studied a few other languages in
school and college, including Sanskrit, Hindi, English, and ein bischen
Deutsch, I have been hard pressed to find such striking grammatical
resemblances even amongst these four languages even though it is
well-established that they are all part of the same Indo-Aryan language family.
The more I learn, and investigate, the more I feel convinced that
not just the Japanese and Tamil languages, but the cultures as well share striking
similarities. Now, if you, like me, were barely awake during geography lessons in
high school, you may be interested to know that Japan and South India are separated by well over 5000 miles of
land and sea. So how could these similarities have come about? And when?
With these questions begins this exciting journey into the
parallel worlds of Japan and South India , one that is far from complete. In this research notebook, I will document my first impressions on
this voyage of discovery into the commonalities between Japanese and Dravidian:
the languages, the cultures, the people and their customs.
Disclaimer: None of the ideas presented here has had
the benefit of expert scrutiny. As I am
not a linguist, sociologist or anthropologist by training, some of the theories
I discuss are likely controversial. Although, being a scientist by training, I
will try to avoid needlessly warped logic. Comments, corrections and
suggestions are always welcome.
Background
The relationship of Japanese to other major language groups is controversial, and highly disputed [1]. Many scholars group Japanese with Korean, and this is not surprising given the geographical proximity of the two regions.
An alternate, prominent hypothesis is that Japanese is related to the Altaic language family (Turkic, Mongolic etc) based on vocabulary correspondences, and the fact the both Japanese and Altaic languages are agglutinative [1a]. A much less widely accepted, and even more controversial hypothesis is the relationship between Japanese and Dravidian, another agglutinative language [1b].
Akira Fujiwara called Japanese and Tamil "as alike as two peas in a pod" [2,3]. Unfortunately, such over-enthusiasm to embrace the Dravidian hypothesis has led to (eminently remediable) oversights and hasty research conclusions, drawing withering criticism. Notably, the late Susumu Ohno's extensive list of vocabulary correspondences between Japanese and Tamil [4] have been dubbed "careless and capricious" by Roy A Miller, a principal proponent of the Altaic hypothesis [3]. Rebuttals have been made to these criticisms as well [5].
Next section: What do I bring to this debate?
There was lot of migration outwards from Central Asia in the early history of mankind. So, for example, the Finns and Mongolians share a common ancestry. There is both linguistic and medical evidence for this.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to see if ther is a liguistic connection, words like 'water', 'wood' and 'village' are often worth comparing.
Really fantastic research and intuition. I too cannot claim any linguistic or paleoarcheologic credentials, but this post reminded me of the Toba volcanic eruption in Indonesia ~ 75,000 yrs before present.
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Any loose threads to be found here might be unraveled by your insight.
Wonderful, informative and interesting essay.
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ReplyDeleteAs I am a Tamil, living in Korea personally experience the similarity between the Korean and Tamil language in speaking, writing, grammar and culture and amazed and puzzled me, then start googling to solve my puzzle and find some answers recently. I personally think, People moved from other parts to Korean peninsula, since Korea have extreme bad climate condition compare to Tamil originally originated at current south India. As Tamil literature says there is a continent called "lemuria" (google on this for more info) which have rich culture and kingdom of Tamil.
Tamil migrated to reach others intentionally, for example the life of Bodhidharma :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhidharma
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As conclusion we are human originated and multiplied and migrated and adopted different custom we have blood relationship and language and it is changed due to changes of geographical. Now people forget all and killing each other just for politics and harnessing and ruin the love and peace...if people united by language and understanding we can make a heaven on earth. in Tamil- மொழியால் மக்கள் இணைந்தால், மனிதனுக்கு சொர்க்கம் மிக அருகில் :) தமிழ் வாழ்க!~~`Good bless you, dear my relatives ~~
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DeleteCould you possibly do some more research on Kannada and Japanese. My parents are kannadigas and I happen to GREATLY enjoy anime and Hatsune Miku (Japanese singer). I know Kannada originated from tamil (despite it gaining some sanskrit words. I'm sorry, your finding is very for fascinating for me :).
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ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed this post, especially the “IMAGE” portion which made it really easy for me to SEE what you were talking about without even having to leave
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I noticed some striking similarities between Korean and Malayalam and thought maybe I was imagining it. A quick Google search revealed that it was not my imagination - others have also noted similarities between Korean and Dravidian languages. I can't help but wonder if the languages have a common ancestor, despite the vast geographical distance involved.
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ReplyDeleteLiving in Japan, this article has fueled a greater desire to study Japanese harder and see for myself about the similarities in Tamil and Nihongo. Since I haven't met even a single Tamil over here it's kinda hard to tell if it is just me or if I'm missing out on some crucial link between these two.
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ReplyDeleteSuperb article sir!! One can easily make out that the similarities between Japanese and Tamil are not just apparent but they do have something important to convey.. That sometime in history perhaps there was some interaction between the two groups of people.. Linguists should as well give a thought to this. Currently considered to be a language isolate, maybe it will even lead to Japanese being classified under the Dravidian group of languages. Ieagerly look forward to this day! (^_^)
ReplyDeletehi, I'm Korean. I'm interested in relationship between Korean and Tamil recently.
ReplyDeleteand I found here when I search a information about the relationship between Korean and Tamil.
I just want to show you how many similar word there are between Korean and Tamil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGSrEAW0c_A
and you can find the evidence in Korea history Tamil people had come to Korea
is there anyone can read Korean near you? you can ask translate this article.
http://newsmaker.khan.co.kr/khnm.html?mode=view&code=116&artid=13577&pt=nv
in his opinion, Tamil people might have come to Korea and Japan by ship 2000years ago
I'm Charuveena from Tamil nadu. My mother tongue is Sourashtra (a Gujarati variant), but have always considered myself a Tamilian. I started learning Japanese when I was 8 years old and from day one, I always related it to Tamil. During my JLPT classes too, I always supported that Tamil and Japanese have common roots, but was unsure how to prove it and it has always remained a mystery all these years. Your blog was enlightening and encouraging to know that I'm not the only person who thinks this way !
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ReplyDeleteYes absolutely Japanese and Tamil go hand in Hand. If one is a Tamilian he/she can learn Japanese easily. That's why most of the Japanese people visit Bengaluru as they can relate their language and find it easy to communicate.
ReplyDeleteI have came across Tamil Dravidian while learning Japanese language 2 years back. and to my surprise I can relate most the words and even talked to people who speaks both the languages. Its almost exact. Though, most of the people don't accept this relationship.
ReplyDeleteReally Great you have give us the detail about the relation between the japan and Tamil is really great.love to get this type of knowledge About the japanese langauge and Tamil Dravidian.Great work
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How interesting!I am Tamil and have always admired the Japanese love of horticulture and beauty in nature. Why did we not pick it up from them, if we could share many features in our languages? I wish we had.
ReplyDeleteWhich one is related in different language of both word or phonetic.Script or writing word is not connect close relationship of languages.I feed Sound or Phonetic with sound understanding is only perfect the languages relationship.by e.senguttuvan.vathalagundu.Tamilnadu,india
ReplyDeleteThis is way too far fetched and does not consider every single idea.
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